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[edit]Isn't it time we removed filth like this from the internet? Also a fictional act such as the one described herein is hardly "encyclopedic". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.63.147 (talk) 11:25, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
- No it isn't time we removed material like this from the internet, neither is it fictional.--feline1 (talk) 18:53, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- Besides. oh IP user, Wikipedia is WP:NOT Censored for anyone. Even kids; don't like it? Don't look at it :) Thor Malmjursson (talk) 01:07, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
You forgot to point out the Obvious. This person did a search to wind up on this page in the first place and apparently is interested in learning more about this "filth". I do have an issue with the page though, there is no section on the safeness of the act. Is there any risk of anal muscle injury to the fistee? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.116.149.212 (talk) 18:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
- Fictional act...? I beg to differ. I have personal experience with fisting being a completely possible act... o.o Jcmcc450 (talk) 02:09, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
- Fisting (sometimes called handballing -- why isn't that term listed in the article?) is potentially lethal. The inserter must have closely and smoothly trimmed nails that are thoroughly pared, and his or her hands must be extremely clean. A tear or puncture of the rectal wall could be fatal. There is probably little danger to the anal ring, though, as it can stretch a ridiculous amount when the insertee is thoroughly relaxed. If you don't believe this, rent some videos. WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 00:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
- Updated to include reference from the book Trust, the Hand Book: A Guide to the Sensual and Spiritual Art of Handballing K8 fan (talk) 18:21, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
I am glad people can come to wiki to learn about these things. until today i didn't even know fisting existed. i would never do it though 65.183.212.114 (talk) 01:10, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
The real-life images on this page are too obscene for Wikipedia. They should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.10.61.128 (talk) 13:38, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
History of anal and vaginal fisting?
[edit]There should be a section in the article about the history of anal and vaginal fisting.
Comment by User:81.107.174.60
[edit]The article says the photo of fisting on a man is illegal in the UK. So why do I have access to that?--81.107.174.60 (talk) 19:49, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
- Lets start with the obvious. If you didn't want to see want to see images of fisting, perhaps you shouldn't have typed fisting into your search box.
- The article doesn't say the image is illegal. It says a prosecutor argued that such images are illegal. If you read it more carefully, you'll see that the prosecutor lost that case.
- Most of us don't live in the UK. UK law is irrelevant for 99.1% of the world's population. Wikipedia servers are in the US. Content on Wikipedia is subject to the laws of the United States and the laws of the state of Florida. Some countries say images criticizing their king are illegal. Other countries say images of women without Burkas are illegal. You can't seriously expect us to follow random, dumb, or contradictory laws from two hundred countries. That includes the UK law.
- If you're asking why your government isn't intercepting your internet communications, asking why your government isn't blocking the image from arriving (an image which you requested, when you requested the webpage)... well the UK government did try doing something like that before. They claimed an image on another Wikipedia page was illegal. They put up an internet censorship block against it. They quit that dumb idea after two days. UK citizens got pissed off at the UK government screwing up their Wikipedia access. If you want your government censoring your internet access, you'll have to take the subject up with your elected representative. However you should be aware that Wikipedia has made changes since the last time the UK government tried to censor access to Wikipedia. Wikipedia now uses HTTPS secure encrypted connections. It is crytographically impossible for the UK government, or Saudi Arabia, or any other country to block individual images or particular pages. The only way a country (other than the US) can censor anything on Wikipedia is by cutting off ALL access to Wikipedia. Note that I'm not arguing that the US should have some special privilege here. It is merely a fact that the servers must be somewhere, and they happen to be in the US. If it were up to me, the US government have the same (zero) power to censor Wikipedia as the UK government or Saudi government. Alsee (talk) 09:20, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Your assumption is wrong. When someone visit an encyclopaedia is generally expecting to find information, not pornography. There are other web sites more suitable for viewing this material. And I'm not talking about a drawing but homosexual pornography at the end of the page. If you wish to see these images then go to a porn web site. It's you who are in the wrong place, not the rest of us.--81.107.174.60 (talk) 14:25, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
- We do not argue whether images of breasts in the breast cancer article are or are-not "pornography". That is a pointless and endless argument. We debate whether the image is relevant to the article. Articles on cars contain images of cars. Articles on breast cancer contain images of breasts. Articles on ducks contain images of ducks. It may shock you or offend you, but the simple and obvious Wikipedia Policy is that articles on fisting are going to contain images of fisting. If you search for fisting, you are going to find fisting. And you are going to find the most accurate and impartial coverage we can achieve. That means, to the best of our ability, articles shall not promote nor suppress one political party relative to another, they shall not promote nor suppress one religion relative to another, they shall not promote nor suppress one nation over another, and they shall not promote nor suppress homosexuality relative to heterosexuality. My personal opinion is irrelevant, your personal opinion is irrelevant. To the best of our ability, the article is going to neutrally summarize what exists.
- You may not like that fisting exists, you may not like that homosexuality exists, but we are not going to censor that information from people who do search for it. Alsee (talk) 16:52, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
I don't see porn photos or videos in the article about Pornography. According to you, why are they not relevant there? What is relevant or not depends on the purpose you seek. If your intent is to explain what fisting is, a drawing would be enough. An image of a gay male being sodomized in a session of sadomasochism is clearly not relevant. You don't need this image for explaining what fisting is.--Charrua85 (talk) 20:40, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
- We don't remove images from article A because article B doesn't have any images. Also, it sounds like you dislike looking at photographs of gay men doing butt stuff. There are over 5 million articles on Wikipedia that don't have any photographs of gay men doing butt stuff. Go look at those instead. (And how do you know that he's gay in the first place?) --ChiveFungi (talk) 22:44, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
- If you think Pornography would benefit from more or better illustrations, we are certainly open to discussing any images you think should be added. Alsee (talk) 09:48, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Changing image of male fisting
[edit]I there is a better quality image than File:Anal fisting being performed on a male.jpg to illustrate male anal fisting, and that is File:Self Fisting.jpg. It can also tie into including the possibility for self-fisting which is not currently covered in Techniques. Considering the current image is being partially obscured by large buttocks and is a poorer quality image, what are your thoughts on replacing it? Pabsoluterince (talk) 03:16, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Seems better. Zenomonoz (talk) 03:41, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Done, added a blurred version on commons Zenomonoz (talk) 05:55, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for that. Pabsoluterince (talk) 07:41, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Does it really need a citation?
[edit]"Double fisting can be done using three ways: By inserting two hands in the anus, two hands in the vagina, or one hand in the anus and the other in the vagina."
This is one of my added contents on the article. But it got deleted for lacking a citation. But does this really need a citation?! Aminabzz (talk) 17:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
- Given the logistics and practicality of what is involved here, I'd say yes. HalJor (talk) 19:40, 13 August 2024 (UTC)